We just went through a devastating wind storm in Spokane, Washington and a 60 foot Ponderosa pine came through our bedroom and caused almost 60k worth of damage. We have 8 of these Ponderosa pines in our yard sadly. Thanks for any insight and advice you might have. Hey Tim. I still think the best advice is going to come from a Certified Arborist that is familiar with them in your area. While they might want to do a consulting call which might cost about a hundred bucks, this is a case that might def.
Another idea is to contact your local county extension service. They might have someone there who is qualified to answer this, or refer you to a university resource for free or nominal fee. Wish I could help more from here Tim, but this is one of those that can only best be addressed at the scene.
Good luck. The new growth is about 20 ft tall but my concern is they are both leaning quite hard o the left, if the tree fell in a big wind storm is might his the neighbors place or come back on our property and take out 4 town-homes.
Do we top it again or what. But I suspect a Certified Arborist might suggest that you remove one of the competing leaders. But they would need to see it to know and advise which one to remove if any. But it would certainly reduce the chance of the extra weight at the top. Thanks for this great information.
I would be wonderful if you would do an episode or write about the cultural practice of topping trees or did I miss this. I live in the Netherlands where pollarding Willows is a long cherished cultural practice, but I think the trees look unhealthy. You often see rotting, hollow trunks. Often you see rows of them by dikes. It use to produce thin branches for wicker furniture and also provide low hanging foliage for cattle. Just curious if you have ever thought about making a show comparing cultural practices of tree pruning etc.
Thanks Kristin. It makes me so mad!!! They are not native here. The first winter was no problem for the tree. But last winter was extremely cold and snowy and in the spring I noticed the top of the tree had died, even though the bottom seemed to be sprouting up nicely — so I had no choice but to snip the top off. So this summer I bought an AG fabric tree bag to put over it which supposedly helps with frost but still allows light, air and water through.
Is this a good idea? What are your thoughts? They say they prevent salt damage as well. Lastly, I have two trees in my front garden bed that should never been planted there they were there when I moved in One is a spruce or pine tree and one is some type of green-yellow arborvitae type tree.
Both have gotten too tall and are also crowding each other. Since topping is a bad idea should I just cut them down? Hi Ben. Sorry for the long delayed response! As for the trees in front of your window, if you are considering cutting them down to be a worst case option, then I would have someone carefully trim them to improve your view.
If cut properly and not just hacked off as so many people do, then you stand a chance. But trees are remarkably resilient if you take proper care ahead of time. We have an unusual rounded pine tree — 25 feet tall and wide with gorgeous red bark — near our sidewalk.
Several branches were cut back, so that they were about feet long, with no foliage at all. Later I trimmed these back to the trunk. The tree had been having trouble the past few years, with slowly dying branches on one side. The terrible pruning was at the wrong time, and done the wrong way. My money is on the fact that these guys hack job killed your pine. While not entirely impossible, I find it too ironic to think the tree coincidently died from perfectly healthy in just 3 months.
Pines can be very susceptible to bad pruning. This sounds like a case of that. Good luck Monetee. I hate to hear that this happened. After a heavy snowstorm damaged a few branches on our Swedish columnar aspens and bent many of the branches on the Sutherland caraganas both types at full height I hired an arborist for some light pruning and tidying of these and a weeping birch.
I was shocked when I saw the result. The aspens now have 11 ft of bare trunk from the ground up with about 5 spindly branches left on the crown. The caragana are totally cut off and are now only six ft high. Needless to say our garden now has no privacy whatsoever and the trees look so bad. My question is — will these trees recover to their former glory or are they damaged forever.
Canada zone 2 So upset! Yikes Barbara. This no doubt was sickening to see. They should also know which of those trees will put out new growth from the trunk and canopy. However I do not have experience with the trees you mention so I cannot say for sure. Please let me know how this plays out.
I have my fingers crossed for you. Barbara, sorry to hear about what happened to your aspens. I hope they have weathered this winter well, and will come back with a vengeance this spring.
Maybe the service was not very experienced, and was not able to take care of your trees well. Hope they make a full recovery. Two side by side hollies at the corner of the house and a sweet bay magnolia in the front flower bed. All beautiful and dearly loved. The guy chopped them all off at their main trunks at the roof line. I feel your pain Barbara! It makes me sick to read comments like this.
While this is not a guaranteed death sentence for your hollies or magnolia, the original form will likely never be the same. The trees will likely attempt to replace their lost growth but without the structural integrity and form of their prior self. Hollies are very resilient. I have 70 foot pecan tree.. I live in south texas. Yikes Mark. Gosh this sounds so typical. As an established tree, if it is to survive and I think it should , it has what it needs to do so.
You will know in a few months. The tree will grow new sprouts and branches in an effort to replace what it just lost. The long term damage happens when people come back year after year and keep cutting it back. That is just too much for most trees to bear.
Be patient and say your prayers. I returned home to find 23 of my 30 Ponderosa Pine trees side trimmed, my heart is broken. Will the branches grow back? Should I have them cut down completely? IF the trees are next to a power line they had the right to do whatever was necessary to prevent any accidents from happening. So, if they die then you should not plant anymore trees there.
They were planted the summet of Please help. Thank you so much! Hi Laura. When you say no new growth, are the limbs dead up there? Is there old growth that flushes out new leaves on same branches but no increased growth? Either way, I would suggest pruning back those limbs in late winter not now , to a point just above dormant leaf buds. That should stimulate new growth in spring.
It may be that those upper parts of the trees are dead. Disturbed roots may lack the network to pump water to the entire tree. Hi, I accidentally cut off the entire top of my dogwood tree with a weed wacker by cutting right through the trunk horizontally. There are now no limbs or leaves. The tree is very young and only about. Is there any way to save this tree?
Nothing you can do now em but wait it out. You may see new growth just below the cut or from a point at the base of the tree as new growth emerges to replace what was lost.
Dogwoods are surprisingly resilient so lets see what happens. Any chance the tree will recover and look ok? Hi jack. I then secure it to a tall stake so that the side branch is now turned up I use velcro tape.
The extra encouragement of showing it the way has worked wonders for me. The tree figures it out and the results have been very positive. Give it a try and let me know how it works out. Eventually the side branch turned lead will develop the rigidity to remove the splint. Hi Joe How do you know if a redwood is healthy? One of my redwood trees has excessive bark peeling, and looks black at the bottom. When in doubt, I would def.
You can also look them up. But it takes a trained eye to assess the real issue and the proper resolution. Hi Joe, I have tree that is dead at the top, but is thriving in the middle and bottom…could I then top it?
Hi Grady. In your case, cutting out the top would be advisable. But, you should try and assess why the tree is dead at the top; was it drought, disease, pests?
I planted a baby weeping cherry tree last fall and in the same week I planted it my young daughter snapped the top off of it. This spring it has produced several lateral limbs all up and down the tree.
I am just wondering if it will grow tall like it is supposed to and still have the weeping canopy I was hoping for? Hi Shelia. Sorry I missed your question when you sent it to me. How is your tree doing now? However, if it is not, you might try taking a side limbing growing near the tip and point it up and secure it with a splint or round stake, like a strong piece of bamboo, etc.
If you give it some help, often times it will get the message it is supposed to be the new leader and will assume that dominant position on the tree.
Good luck and let us know how it works out. I understand that the crown acts as a pivot point for the shallow root ball and the leaning will only continue to get worse overtime until it ultimately falls. This terrifies me in so many levels and pretty much for all the same reasons that you stated in your article.
But I have no idea what else to do other than just let the tree fall, which is also extremely heartbreaking to think about happening.
I am open for any and all suggestions. Please help me and the tree. If they are who they say, they can produce this information and you can even cross reference this online to verify.
Conflict of interest rarely work out in my opinion. Please help! I had a young tree with a trunk about 2. It was accidentally cut off by someone doing some yard work. All the little branches and greenery are gone. Is there any way to save it so it will grow back.
It may grow back but only time will tell. A new sprout may assume apical dominance to replace the vertical lead trunk that was cut off. If so, you should be fine. But it depends on the type of tree and other issues. No point in giving up now. I get that topping a tee is bad. In many cases the tree can be topped or it can be removed; under such circumstances topping a tree makes more sense than perhaps you can imagine. If I want it shorter there is no other way, you say get an arborist, but is he going to do take a section of the trunk off and glue it back together.
I think trees are beautiful I love trees I also control my landscape, although maybe I did not plant it , and a tall tree in some cases is just not going to work.
When you actually have a solution let us know.. The repeated topping of a tree to control its size will continue to stress the tree, produce weakly attached new limbs to replace the ones that are lost, and open the tree up to pests and diseases. Trees will quickly attempt to regrow to their original size with inferior limb attachments. Once the tree finally dies, the solution is to replace it with a variety that stays within the desired mature height.
Until then, alternatives to topping may include selective pruning and thinning. These efforts can reduce overall height in some cases, as well as overall canopy and density—possible acceptable compromises to topping. I hate to hear that. The tree is naturally going to respond to rapid growth to try and replace what was just lost.
That can make the wood even softer and less able to withstand future environmental challenges. We have a volunteer tree growing from a tree we unfortunately had to remove. The tree has grown upward quite fast, but the trunk is not strong enough to hold the branches up. We have had to tie it down now for two years. How do we get the trunk to grow thicker? The only thing I would suggest you do to give the trunk a fighting chance to grow straight and tall is to reduce the amount of branching that is pulling the trunk over and inhibiting it from growing up.
If you take this route, remove a top portion of the tree down to where you see new buds or branching. But before you do any of that, make sure you are getting enough sunlight down to this tree to begin with. It may be that it is simply trying to grow rapidly to reach sufficient light. If it is being shaded, it will stretch and become leggy. The result can be exactly what you are experiencing: a thin trunk with insufficient girth to hold up the branching trying to capture enough light to sustain itself in less than ideal conditions.
Our sweet gum was attacked by borers. They went undetected until a large percentage of the tree had died including the top. It depends on what kind of borers.
But losing the top is not a death sentence by itself and some trees recover. But they likely were not affected by borers. In your case, if the top died, the tree is clearly in decline and unlikely to recover in my opinion.
Hi Joe, Our new neighbors approached us today asking if we would be willing to cut down a row of white pines in our backyard, because they are blocking the sun in their yard where they have a swimming pool, and also dropping pine needles. Do you have any suggestions or ways to think about it that would make sense in responding to them? Some reasons pro and con would be very helpful. We live in Massachusetts.
Topping a tree opens it up to the risks in infestation for pests and diseases. But I would personally not risk it if you like your trees. I understand wanting to be a good neighbor, but this is a big ask. We had a spring snow storm and the top of my flowering crab apple tree has broke off. Will the tree die? Is there something I can do to save it? Please if you could give me any advise my email address is dntnwld aol.
A person with disabilities can not work above feet. Is able, and likes to work on lower limbs. Dale, my admonition is for people who butcher would would be or could be full grown hardwoods if allowed to do what they were meant to do. In your case, there are many fruit tree and regular tree varieties that remain rather small, or at least very slow growing.
My wife is pretty mad at me for making this call. When I was out there with the tree trimmers I told him to continue trimming all the branches.
Now what do I do? Is the only thing left removing this tree? You had ALL the branches trimmed off?? As in there are none left? Yes, you have effectively killed the tree. Call your tree guy back and have him finish the job by cutting down the naked truck.
Next time try starting your own thread for your questions. It's easy - just follow the directions. I agree, topping out your pines may not be the best idea. It will put a huge amount of stress on the tree, and in my opinion doesn't look all that good. My recommendation is thin them out.
Step back and take a good look at your yard, decide which trees can go. Also i have found that a bit of trimming every year will give them a nice "full" look. Prune just enough to keep the shape you want. Trim in late winter or very early spring. Here is a link that might be useful: kennedy tree service. I have a white pine tree. Some of the top got damaged in a storm - tree branches cut it off. Will the tree die if the top opf it is half gone? Can I take a stem and root it to start another tree?
I have several pines and my one pine out front grew two crowns, when, just before I bought this place they took the crown off for a xmas tree hah but it grew 2 back.
Also, I have seen hedges made out of pine trees that LQQk ok, they seem fine. Seen the neighbour cut his short all the time and they just keeeeep goin. So try it see what it does.. Here is a link that might be useful: pruning pine trees. Houzz OK, but can't left click for photo enlargement. I have found lately if you up grade, no matter what, it usually ends up a down grade.
I dreamed of having a beautiful pine tree in the corner of my yard so that I could decorate it for holidays, especially Christmas but it is out of control. Three quarter of the way up the tree it grew larger and branched out more than the bottom. I do not want to trim or top it and possibly kill it. What's left for me to do with it? I prefer not to replace it either for sentimental reasons! Coletta, it works better to start a new thread. Likely, not much interest left for this item from !
If you do start a new thread highly recommended , then please also include a photo of the tree in question. It is very difficult to visualize what is going on with a specific tree and how to correct or adjust its growth just based on a verbal description. Pines have been especially hard hit with drought in the past several years. Once the trees weaken they will drop their needles but are especially prone to spiders which suck even more moisture from the needles and eventually kill the tree.
HU and a bunch of numbers, I don't understand your comment. Not sure you can generalize about drought conditions being uniform across the country nor can you generalize about all pines being adverse to drought conditions.
Some species are extremely drought tolerant. And you must mean spider mites , not spiders :- And it would take a massive infestation of spider mites to kill an established pine!!
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Here's an example of a web site I found when I googled "pruning pine trees. Like 2 Save. Spring is the perfect season to trim pine trees. Best Pruning Technique. To prune your pine trees, simply pinch back the new growth, called candles, seen in the spring. If you use pruning shears to cut the new growth, you could end up cutting into the needles of the trees, leaving them to turn brown. Cut the candle in the middle of the growth.
Pruning the new growth by breaking the candle halfway will cause the growth to slow. Tree topping is a controversial topic amongst arborists. The result is that the tree becomes a hazard to itself, neighboring trees, and your property. Topped trees often lose their natural pyramid shape, thus leaving them in an unattractive shape.
The tree is often not able to produce the required food, leaving it less viable after topping. Some still use tree topping as a means to control the height of their trees, but many cities advise against it, both for the sake of aesthetics and for the health of the trees. If you have acquired property with older trees that have grown too large for their space or have let too much time go by and are left with pine trees that are too big, call in the experts, such as those at Mr.
Tree , to advise you of the best next steps. Some trees will be able to be maintained, while it may be best to remove others to make room for a smaller variety of trees that will better fit the available space. Most plant tags at nurseries will show the mature height of the pine tree.
The key to picking the perfect pine tree for your space is to consider one of the dwarf pine tree varieties available.
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